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	<title>Comments on: Are subdomains no longer separate sites in the eyes of Google?</title>
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		<title>By: kichus</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/01/18/are-subdomains-no-longer-separate-sites-in-the-eyes-of-google/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>kichus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the newly added Link feature at  Google WebmasterCentral they are treating the subdomain links as the Internal Links. 

What are internal links?

Internal links to your site are the links that reside on pages that belong to your domain. For example, if you are viewing links for http://www.google.com/, all the links that originate from pages on any subdomain of google.com, such as http://www.google.com/ or mobile.google.com, would appear as internal links to your site.

This is what they are given the definition for Internal Links at their official Blog: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/02/discover-your-links.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the newly added Link feature at  Google WebmasterCentral they are treating the subdomain links as the Internal Links. </p>
<p>What are internal links?</p>
<p>Internal links to your site are the links that reside on pages that belong to your domain. For example, if you are viewing links for <a href="http://www.google.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/</a>, all the links that originate from pages on any subdomain of google.com, such as <a href="http://www.google.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/</a> or mobile.google.com, would appear as internal links to your site.</p>
<p>This is what they are given the definition for Internal Links at their official Blog: <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/02/discover-your-links.html" rel="nofollow">http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/02/discover-your-links.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/01/18/are-subdomains-no-longer-separate-sites-in-the-eyes-of-google/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m voting on site: being foobar&#039;d, it&#039;s a shame it was really a good diagnostic tool ... sigh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m voting on site: being foobar&#8217;d, it&#8217;s a shame it was really a good diagnostic tool &#8230; sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/01/18/are-subdomains-no-longer-separate-sites-in-the-eyes-of-google/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve been showing subdomains under site search for a very long time but the &quot;site:&quot; operator has been worked on in recent months.  It now appears that the sub-domains show up on the basis of how you canonize your domain name in the query.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve been showing subdomains under site search for a very long time but the &#8220;site:&#8221; operator has been worked on in recent months.  It now appears that the sub-domains show up on the basis of how you canonize your domain name in the query.</p>
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		<title>By: NetMidWest</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/01/18/are-subdomains-no-longer-separate-sites-in-the-eyes-of-google/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>NetMidWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been a reversion in the way Google is handling redirects as well:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=217061
Matt Cutts has discussed these in the past under the subject of canonical issues:
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/
Here&#039;s an article discussing these bugs in Google:
http://www.seoimage.com/stardate/google-bugs/
At the time it was written, I thought the problem was over...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a reversion in the way Google is handling redirects as well:<br />
<a href="http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=217061" rel="nofollow">http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=217061</a><br />
Matt Cutts has discussed these in the past under the subject of canonical issues:<br />
<a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/</a><br />
Here&#8217;s an article discussing these bugs in Google:<br />
<a href="http://www.seoimage.com/stardate/google-bugs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.seoimage.com/stardate/google-bugs/</a><br />
At the time it was written, I thought the problem was over&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DazzlinDonna</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/01/18/are-subdomains-no-longer-separate-sites-in-the-eyes-of-google/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>DazzlinDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEOrefugee, maybe you&#039;ve been seeing it on a particular DC, and mine is just getting around to showing it, but I&#039;m pretty sure it hasn&#039;t been showing it for weeks for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEOrefugee, maybe you&#8217;ve been seeing it on a particular DC, and mine is just getting around to showing it, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it hasn&#8217;t been showing it for weeks for me.</p>
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		<title>By: NetMidWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>NetMidWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something going on with canonical isssues.
http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:www.cookbook-bookstore.com&amp;filter=0 - 62 results.
http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:cookbook-bookstore.com&amp;filter=0 - almost 5,000 results.
No subdomains, and a good .htaccess from non-www to www for that site. 5,000 is about right.
Matt Cutts would say that site: is just an estimate, but obviously something is wrong there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something going on with canonical isssues.<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:www.cookbook-bookstore.com&amp;filter=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:www.cookbook-bookstore.com&amp;filter=0</a> &#8211; 62 results.<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:cookbook-bookstore.com&amp;filter=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=allinurl:cookbook-bookstore.com&amp;filter=0</a> &#8211; almost 5,000 results.<br />
No subdomains, and a good .htaccess from non-www to www for that site. 5,000 is about right.<br />
Matt Cutts would say that site: is just an estimate, but obviously something is wrong there.</p>
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		<title>By: johnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadn&#039;t noticed this before, but I&#039;ve just checked McDar and there appear to be two distinct sets of data centers, one using the old method of excluding subdomains and one using the new method that you&#039;ve commented on.
A brief check on keyword searches seems to show that both sets are returning the same results though, so maybe they&#039;re just tinkering with the site: command ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t noticed this before, but I&#8217;ve just checked McDar and there appear to be two distinct sets of data centers, one using the old method of excluding subdomains and one using the new method that you&#8217;ve commented on.<br />
A brief check on keyword searches seems to show that both sets are returning the same results though, so maybe they&#8217;re just tinkering with the site: command ?</p>
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		<title>By: SEOrefugee</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/01/18/are-subdomains-no-longer-separate-sites-in-the-eyes-of-google/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>SEOrefugee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna, I think they&#039;ve been showing up in searches for a little while now (a few weeks). That being said, I have seen a drop across the board for my subdomain rankings. It&#039;s been between 5-10 spots for most of my major terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, I think they&#8217;ve been showing up in searches for a little while now (a few weeks). That being said, I have seen a drop across the board for my subdomain rankings. It&#8217;s been between 5-10 spots for most of my major terms.</p>
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